An olive branch?
Posted by Brad at 8:54am Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Last week, I wrote about one of my most faithful readers, Jim Martin of Fried Green Onions, who frequently attacked some of my posts both in comments on this blog and in commentary on his own blog. While I welcome passionate debate about any given issue, I took issue with the manner in which he disagreed, especially the prevalence of vitriolic ad hominem attacks and extremely personal aspersions.
Yesterday, Mr. Martin seemed to offer an olive branch of sorts with this post:
Yes I am a daily reader of the Brad Neese…living large in Oklahoma site
I find Brad to be the most articulate spokesperson in Oklahoma blogging for his current view of things politic.
I think he will go far in liberal progressive circles.
The vast divide that separates us can be measured in years (perhaps 40 years between us). The vast difference between those reared in Tiny Town or Urban Utopia could figure in to the equation.
Brad really believes almost opposite to the views I hold. Unlike the other liberal bloggers I run across he appears to have no personal axe to grind other than his belief system.
I count him along with Oklahoma Lefty as a Worthy Adversary.
God bless and keep our country free!
I am grateful for his kind remarks. I certainly welcome respectful, reasoned discourse and disagreement about the issues we face here in Oklahoma, in our nation and in the world. It is indeed possible to have a great divide in political positions and yet respect and even admire our political opponents. And it is possible to have honest disagreement without making it a bitter war filled with animus, insults and slanderous insults. I would hope that we can have this type of dialogue here in the Oklahoma blogosphere as well as the American and worldwide blogospheres.
For the record, I do want to respond to a few of Mr. Martin’s comments in his blog post to help clarify my position.
- While I will not deny that many will classify my views as liberal and/or progressive, I do not allow that label to define me. I am a radical Independent. I have no allegiance to any political party or any ideological movement. My only allegiance is to my faith in Jesus Christ and to his principles. I love this country, but I do not swear or affirm a blind allegiance to it. Where it is wrong and conflicts with the ideals of my faith and beliefs, I will criticize and oppose it. I am a fierce defender of the First Amendment and I strongly believe in honest dissent. I hold each and every administration accountable for its actions, regardless of whether its Republican or Democrat. While I supported Barack Obama in this most recent election, that will not preclude me from holding him to the same standards I have held the current occupant of the White House and its previous occupants.
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Social justice is a fundamental plank in my personal political platform, which I firmly believe reflects the ministry and teachings of Jesus. This guides my views on politics and government policies. If that makes me a liberal or progressive, so be it. But I certainly have no aspirations to “go far in liberal progressive circles.” I simply want to be a voice in the overall discourse. Whether anyone listens or cares is entirely out of my hands.
* - I will agree that there is a great age difference between Mr. Martin and myself (although it’s measurably less than 40 years), however I don’t think this alone accounts for our “vast divide” in viewpoints. I have several friends of similar (and some even greater) age whose viewpoints are not so dissimilar from my own.
* - Similarly, I don’t believe our “vast difference” comes from where we were reared. Unlike Mr. Martin’s assumption, I spent more time living in one “Tiny Town” or another than I have in “Urban Utopia.” While it is true that I have spent the last 15 or so years living in the greater Oklahoma City metro area (including living in Norman, Oklahoma City proper and Edmond), I was raised most of my young life in rural areas and small towns, from South Carolina to Kansas to Illinois to Indiana to southwest Oklahoma. My grandparents were farmers in Illinois, so I’m certainly not unaccustomed to “Rural America” — or as Sarah Palin calls it, “Real” America. I understand rural/small town values and issues. The reality is that my social justice beliefs were shaped as much by these experiences and values as they were by my “Urban Utopia” experiences.
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In an upcoming post, whether later today or later this week, I’ll expand even more about my background so that readers will possibly better understand where I’ve come from and who I am today.
But for now, I sincerely appreciate Mr. Martin’s gesture and goodwill in his post. I look forward to more spirited discussions in the future. “God bless and keep our country free!” Indeed!




On Nov 18, 2008, Otter said:
“While I will not deny that many will classify my views as liberal and/or progressive, I do not allow that label to define me. I am a radical Independent. I have no allegiance to any political party or any ideological movement. My only allegiance is to my faith in Jesus Christ and to his principles. I love this country, but I do not swear or affirm a blind allegiance to it. Where it is wrong and conflicts with the ideals of my faith and beliefs, I will criticize and oppose it.”
“Social justice is a fundamental plank in my personal political platform, which I firmly believe reflects the ministry and teachings of Jesus.”
Amen to that Mr. Brad.
On Nov 18, 2008, Karla said:
Very nice!
On Nov 18, 2008, Sinister said:
Brad - FGO is an irredeemable hateful idiot. Don’t give him an olive branch or he’ll stick it in your eye the next time you dare to express something other than a far right theocratic viewpoint. Trust me - I tried giving him an olive branch and he spewed some really offensive filth after I had the audacity to celebrate my marriage in California.
On Nov 18, 2008, Brian said:
Let us hope that no one is beyond redemption and I am glad to see that FGO has seemingly reached out with an olive branch.
Yet, with all due respect to FGO, ‘worthy advesary’ is a bit of an overreach in my humble opinion because it presumes that FGO is offering a challenge on the same level. I have yet to see an actual challenge of an issue let alone an articulate one. I have also spent some time recently on FGO’s site (I, of course, am a regular reader of this blog). The two sites are not on the same level.
This is not a criticism of FGO’s potential - I have no idea what that really is. I would love to see an actual reasoned critique of an issue that the two are so opposite on - particularly since both claim to be drawing their beliefs based on a faith in Jesus Christ.
As one who is a devout Christian, was raised in small town (”real”) America and one who is often labeled progressive (generally by those on the far right), I would love to see the discourse raised by people that ‘have no personal axe to grind’ since apparently my background is at odds with my faith and my politics.
On Nov 18, 2008, Brad said:
Sinister —
I’ll echo what Brian said in his comment: My faith tells me that no one is beyond redemption. And my faith compels me to allow someone to redeem themselves.
But I am not naive either. I realize that Mr. Martin has said some very hateful things on his blog and in his comments on others’ blogs — not only about me, but about others as well, including you. I certainly don’t condone or dismiss those offenses out-of-hand. He has said some very hurtful and reprehensible things, something that seems grossly incongruent with the Christian faith he professes.
But when someone does offer an olive branch — even someone who has been hateful, hurtful and slanderous against me — I am willing to open a dialogue. How else can we ever connect with those who oppose us and work to bridge the divide? Others may be too hurt, offended or wronged to go down that road further. I understand that.
My faith compels me to forgive, even if I don’t always forget.
Thanks for your comment, Sinister.
On Nov 18, 2008, Brad said:
Thank you Otter, Karla and Brian for your comments.